The first of my very very very slow coming rants.
Hmm, Ray/Ray. I find myself actually pretty much indifferent to the pairing either way, actually -- it's not something that interests me, but it's certainly not something that rankles, either.
I do think, though, I would like the pairing a little more if there seemed to be more of an acknowledgement that it's kind of a really out-there, unconventional, what-the-hell pairing. It kind of weirds me out a little that a pairing with no canon basis and barely a few minutes of screentime is so wildly popular, and just automatically accepted. It's like you can just skip over all these steps, the same as you could with a completely subtext-laden on-screen pairing.
Like ... okay, compare it with Frannie/RayK -- which, as we all know as readers of this journal, is a pairing of my heart. When I was writing my FV/RK story last summer, every person I mentioned the story to was surprised and responded with something along the lines of "Weird! I wouldn't think that pairing could work!"
Which, dude, yes, it's a weird pairing. But the thing is -- how is it all that different from a lot of the stuff I've heard people say they dig about Ray/Ray? Lots of snark. Mutual love/caring/primary connection through Fraser. Police stuff. The main difference is that Ray and Frannie actually a) share screen time, b) are shown to care about each other and c) have evidence of any kind of attraction to each other. All things that I, at least, would think would make it less likely to get a "what the hell?" reaction.
I think the same thing that annoys me about this is what appeals to some people about the pairing -- Kat Allison had that fascinating post about Ray/Ray as fannish alchemy several months ago. For me, though, it's frustrating. Crazy crossovers and wildly unconventional pairings are fun in some ways, and interesting to explore, but I'm never going to find them really satisfying: I'm never going to get the point of a relationship that I can't see as important or vital.
Edit to add: Also, I am very much confused by people who are very much anti-F/V and explain it by saying "Vecchio is so straight!" and then write and/or devour Ray/Ray stuff. I mean, I think Ray Kowalski is a sex god, too, but come on.
Hmm, Ray/Ray. I find myself actually pretty much indifferent to the pairing either way, actually -- it's not something that interests me, but it's certainly not something that rankles, either.
I do think, though, I would like the pairing a little more if there seemed to be more of an acknowledgement that it's kind of a really out-there, unconventional, what-the-hell pairing. It kind of weirds me out a little that a pairing with no canon basis and barely a few minutes of screentime is so wildly popular, and just automatically accepted. It's like you can just skip over all these steps, the same as you could with a completely subtext-laden on-screen pairing.
Like ... okay, compare it with Frannie/RayK -- which, as we all know as readers of this journal, is a pairing of my heart. When I was writing my FV/RK story last summer, every person I mentioned the story to was surprised and responded with something along the lines of "Weird! I wouldn't think that pairing could work!"
Which, dude, yes, it's a weird pairing. But the thing is -- how is it all that different from a lot of the stuff I've heard people say they dig about Ray/Ray? Lots of snark. Mutual love/caring/primary connection through Fraser. Police stuff. The main difference is that Ray and Frannie actually a) share screen time, b) are shown to care about each other and c) have evidence of any kind of attraction to each other. All things that I, at least, would think would make it less likely to get a "what the hell?" reaction.
I think the same thing that annoys me about this is what appeals to some people about the pairing -- Kat Allison had that fascinating post about Ray/Ray as fannish alchemy several months ago. For me, though, it's frustrating. Crazy crossovers and wildly unconventional pairings are fun in some ways, and interesting to explore, but I'm never going to find them really satisfying: I'm never going to get the point of a relationship that I can't see as important or vital.
Edit to add: Also, I am very much confused by people who are very much anti-F/V and explain it by saying "Vecchio is so straight!" and then write and/or devour Ray/Ray stuff. I mean, I think Ray Kowalski is a sex god, too, but come on.
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29/1/05 18:58 (UTC)