detective, i have never met anyone with as great a capacity to piss off people as you.

[schmerica]

Another note on my Frannie entry from the other day: one of the things that was in my head just before I wrote that the other day was seeing cesperanza mentioning in some comment thread that she was thinking of working on a Frannie/RayK story this summer. And seeing that (besides, you know, provoking squee in me) also made me think of a conversation someone was having some time ago (last year? on #discourse? I have no memory) about Frannie/RayK as a ship, and the things that can be behind it, to support it; that is, all the thing they really have in common.

And so, okay, going back to my Frannie entry -- I think part of what I talked about there is one of those things they have in common. I think both of them do carry around that sense, all the time -- they're less smart, less educated, lower status, that sense of want, etc, etc, etc -- and a lot of the stuff they do is almost a direct response to that. It's just that the way they deal with it that's completely different. Where Frannie's working at it, working her ass off to more or less prove herself, Ray's response is closer to "Fuck you." The abrasiveness, the pretence of not caring, the dismissal of all that sort of stuff -- basically, the other choice of how to react to feeling inferior. (Which stumbledhere and I touched on a little bit in her comments last week, talking about his anti-intellectual bias, but not much, because we were more concerned with Ray smoking weed and getting beat up in bars.)

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[china_shop]

Ray's response is closer to "Fuck you."

And also doing volunteer work with kids, like in Mountie and Soul. Frannie tries to better herself; Ray tries to help others.

[nephir.livejournal.com]

Hey there *waves madly*
Hope you don't mind -- I friended you after reading you latest DS_flashfiction. These are amazing!

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

Ooooh, you know, that's a really good point! And especially interesting, because boxing is what he's using thee, for that volunteer work -- because the same implication is there with boxing itself, when he talks about Stella making him give it up because it's not "civilized" -- there's the same implications of it being, you know, lower class and everything. So perhaps he's doing both at the same time, in a way? Hmmmmm.