booze and ds

[schmerica]

Okay, so thinking on a point dsudis made months and months ago about extrapolating from canon -- who is smarter than me and remembers the different instances where we see the characters drinking?

So far what I remember is:

a) Fraser canonically says he doesn't drink
b) Ray Kowalski mentions martinis in the come-ons in BDtH, but I'm almost sure we never actually see him drinking or having drank (see the Despondency in Ladies Man)
c) Ray Vecchio I'm pretty sure we see on more than one occasion, but the only one I remember now is the wine in Juliet is Bleeding.
d) Frannie I am drawing a total blank, other than her mentioning asking Fraser out for drinks in The Deal.
e) Thatcher is definitely visibly tipsy in Odds, and I think we may see her with wine on other occasions, but I wouldn't swear it.
f) Stella and Orsini's champagne explodes in Strange Bedfellows.

Otherwise the only thing else I remember is that Welsh's and Vecchio's fathers were both either explicitly stated or strongly implied to be alcoholics.

So who has a tighter grasp of canon than me, hmm?

Comments

[norah.livejournal.com]

I am sad that RayK doesn't canonically drink beer. He seems like a beer sort of guy. Whisky when he's upset. But no, I don't think we do see him drinking.

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

I think it totally makes sense for his character to be a beer-drinker. I mean, even if we don't actually see it, I think it's a characteristic that we can extrapolate from the canon and still have it work for him. (I think the context Dira was originally thinkign about drinking in regards to had to do with whether or not Ray was an ex- or current smoker, which had a lot to do with the claim that since we never specifically see him smoke, it was bad characterization. So the issue of what *is* reasonable extrapolation is kind of important.)