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The more I think about Jersey Girl, the more one thing in particular about it starts to seriously bug me. Because, hi, huge pet peeve.

Listen, writers and directors and people of the world: IF YOU START OUT YOUR STORY WITH A FRAMING DEVICE, YOU HAVE TO END IT WITH ONE TOO. That is actually what makes it a frame. You don't start a framed narrative, then get distracted by the movie or book or whatever and just end up like you never framed it to begin with, because that will drive your audience FREAKING NUTS.

(Yes, Shakespeare did it in Taming of the Shrew. Shakespeare did a lot of things you can't pull off.)

Also, I now have "Let My Love Open the Door" stuck in my head. Luckily, I kind of like that song.

My sister was watching Days of Our Lives this afternoon, and I ended up sitting in the room watching with her. Apparently there is a plot going on right now where an uncle is in love with his niece and they are contemplating a romantic relationship. Apparently, this is not totally creepy to anyone on the show because the uncle was adopted. Um, yes.

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20/6/06 23:21 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marginalia.livejournal.com
wait! who is the uncle & the niece in question?

(i mean. i haven't watched days in 10 years. but i still might know ;) )

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20/6/06 23:23 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marginalia.livejournal.com
who -are-, i guess. wot? subject-verb agreement is for luz0rs.

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20/6/06 23:23 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pearl-o.livejournal.com
Um, Max Brady and Bo's daughter Chelsea? I think? Something like that.

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20/6/06 23:30 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marginalia.livejournal.com
oh wow. now i'm clicking around at soapcentral.com and it is making my head explode.

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20/6/06 23:46 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marginalia.livejournal.com
(of course, this being salem, it is pretty much impossible to find someone who's -not- connected to the brady clan.)

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20/6/06 23:51 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pearl-o.livejournal.com
Hee. Or unrelated to the Hortons.

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20/6/06 23:59 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marginalia.livejournal.com
that's right! i had forgotten the other name :)

even my dad watched days in between retiring and getting his job at the chocolate factory.

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20/6/06 23:42 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] myriad69.livejournal.com
Wait, what, Max? OMG and his brother was... shit shit... played by Billy Warlock, yeah?? So Max is like all grown up now? Of course he is. I watched in the 80's. Holy crap.

And Bo has a daughter named Chelsea? The hell?

Never mind, like I said, I watched in the 80's....

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21/6/06 00:01 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
Bo has a daughter named Chelsea (nee Georgia) with Billie. She was stillborn in the bayou in...1998? Something like that. Or hell, maybe Billie just thought she was stillborn. There were hillbillies involved, I remember that. And somehow a year or two ago Billie got convinced that the kid was still alive and she and Bo went on a scavenger hunt for her. Apparently, they finally found this Chelsea kid, who is somehow 16 instead of 8, and who I believe ran over (and killed) Bo and Hope's son Zack. So now everyone hates her. Except her uncle, I guess.

I seriously can't believe I know all this shit. *g*

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21/6/06 00:09 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] marginalia.livejournal.com
oh! oh! she's -that- kid!

i remember the bayou from when i still watched, and i remember my dad telling me about the search for the daughter.

wow.

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21/6/06 02:11 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] myriad69.livejournal.com
BILLIE!!! Oh wow, I stopped watching before the bit about the bayou, oh wait. If it was 1998 then I had stopped watching WAYYY before that. In fact, Billie had left town. In fact, Billie was still played by Lisa Rinna. Wow. And Zack must have been another son, because I thought Bo and Hope had a son named Sean-Douglas.

And it's the LAW on soaps that they must SORAS (Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome) the kid at one point or another. I remember when Eric and Sammi Brady were babies. And now a former Eric is DEAN! OH it all comes in circles!!!

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21/6/06 02:43 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
Billie #1! Oh, how I loved Lisa Rinna. But yeah, she left town after Hope came back to life. She came back later, though, and Bo knocked her up (while still married to Hope, I think?). And yeah, then bayou baby, and then I think she lied to Bo about it and later pretended to have a miscarriage and blamed it all on Hope for daring to be mean and accuse her of trying to steal Bo away, and that caused some tension. Then Billie left again.

And yeah, Bo and Hope have Sean, who is all grown up and trying to get artificially inseminated with his girlfriend, I think. Zack was born...a few years ago. Hope had a baby and Lexie was adopting a baby, and Stefano switched the babies. So the real parents came back and took the kid Hope was raising, and she took her biological kid back from Lexie. (Or so I gather. I have *not* watched through all these story lines. I feel the sudden need to try to repair my dignity, or something. *g*)

SORAS confuses me! 'Cause yeah, I remember when Belle Brady was *conceived*, and now she's all grown up and married. And her parents, through some miracle of god or plastic surgury, don't seem to have aged a day-- of course, maybe Deirdre Hall just has a pact with the devil.

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21/6/06 02:53 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pearl-o.livejournal.com
What I find weird about SORAS is just that they don't ever seem to follow any relative age similarities, you know? Like, before they were aged up, Belle and Brady were like 3 and Sean Douglas was like 10, and then they were all the same age. Or now Chelsea is all grown up, and Sami's kid Will is younger than her? I don't know.

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21/6/06 03:01 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
That is confusing and throws me off. Though for them, it made sense -- they weren't doing *anything* with Belle, so it made sense to age her up to join the new teen generation they started focusing on. Chelsea needed to be old enough to be Abby's friend, and they'd already aged her, I think. And Will was convenient to leave young, because he's a constant source of drama for Sammi and Lucas.

What it really all comes down to is: Alice Horton is the OLDEST WOMAN EVER TO LIVE.

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21/6/06 04:52 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] myriad69.livejournal.com
Wait wait wait.. Who is Abby? NOT Jennifer and Jack's kid? She had JUST been born when I stopped watching. And then they broke up and Jack left or Jennifer left and I was heartbroken because I loved them.

Re: Alice Horton - *nods* And: She's still ALIVE????

(I cried when Dr. Horton died.)

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21/6/06 04:57 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
Yup, Jennifer and Jack's kid. She's throwing hissy fits left and right because Jennifer (believing Jack to be dead) just remarried today/tomorrow/probably for the next two weeks in the longest ceremony ever. Meanwhile, Jack and Steve are right outside the church. Which just...yeah. I remember Jack and Jennifer first getting together and all their craziness, and they have been through the wringer way too many times.

And yup again, Alice is still alive. I don't think she's on all the time anymore -- she was on today for the wedding, and it looked like Maggie was seriously having to assist the actress in walking. Crazy old, but still as gentle and smiling as ever.

(Dude, me too.)

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21/6/06 05:06 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] myriad69.livejournal.com
OMG Steve? Not PATCH Steve??!??!?! Because seriously, I'd have to stay home from work tomorrow to watch. And Jennifer believes Jack is DEAD? Who is she marrying?

DAMMIT! WHY AM I CURIOUS???

And MAGGIE!!!! I remember when they SORAS'd MELISSA, that's how long ago I watched. They stuck her upstairs for about two years, and Maggie would yell up for her to turn the music down, and then she came downstairs one day all grown up. LOL

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21/6/06 05:13 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
OH GOD! YES! This is why I even watched today, and went and caught up on this wackiness with recaps. STEVE IS BACK. I was half-convinced I *dreamed* that he wasn't dead back in 1990, so...seriously, sixteen years I've been waiting-without-really-waiting for this. He and Jack did a DNA test, so it's totally for sure the real Steve. And Kayla is back, too, and they are *this* close to running into each other -- I think it's supposed to happen either tomorrow or Thursday. But Steve has amnesia! So it will be wacky.

And...yes? There was this thing where Marlena serial killed a bunch of people, but not *really* because they all wound up on this island that was built to look just like Salem. And eventually they all got out (though Marlena and Roman wound up taken prisoner again, and Roman knocked her up), but later Jack...got sick or something? And then apparently died? I'm very fuzzy on all of this particular plotline. But yeah, everyone thinks he's dead when really he was in some hospital, where he somehow ran into amnesiac Steve. Also not clear on *those* details, though it was just last week. *g* Jack is, I think, still technically dying, and Jennifer is marrying Frankie. I *think* what will happen is that Jack will survive, but Jennifer will go off with Frankie, since the actress is apparently leaving the show.

Ahahahah! I only vaguely remember Melissa.

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21/6/06 05:42 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] myriad69.livejournal.com
FRANKIE!!! THAT was the name of Max's brother!! When he and Jennifer first started dating they were TEENAGERS!! Oh, so awesome!

And I remember when Steve "died", they did a total huge funeral and flashbacks and crap but then at the VERY end you saw someone switching the coffin and so you KNEW that Steve wasn't really dead. HAHAHAA!! I watched General Hospital in the 90's and they had the actors who played Steve and Kayla on there and that was funny because they didn't have them meet for ages either.

Are they the same actors? I remember when Marlena was "possessed" but that was a couple of years after I had stopped watching, so I didn't know the whole story. By then the whole Roman, no John, no Roman, no HE'S Roman, no HE was Roman FIRST thing got annoying and that might have been why I stopped watching.

OH SOAPS! How I don't miss you!! LOL

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21/6/06 05:52 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
So *that's* who Frankie is! I knew I should know him, but was drawing a blank.

That's hilariously awesome, re: Steve and Kayla on GH. And yes, the exact same actors. It's really eerie to be seeing all these original actors coming back.

I agree on the John and Roman thing. I forgave them because they got rid of Roman for a long time (but then there was drama with John and Kristen, and I swear sometimes that show should be called Days of Worshipping Marlena Evans), and then last year they just had to shove Marlena and Roman together again. Seriously, let it go already!

Soaps are bizarre like that -- I never miss them when I'm not watching! But if I let myself watch just *once* after ages, I have to take an hour or so to go catch up on everything I've missed. Brain eaters!

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21/6/06 04:50 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] myriad69.livejournal.com
N'AWWW!! I remember when Belle and Brady were born! They named Belle after Isabella and I'm surprised they haven't brought HER back from the dead... aw Isabella, you were so adorable!

So wait, Belle and Brady are now the same age as Sean Douglas? And SAMMI has a grown-up kid? IMPOSSIBLE I SAY! In real time life she's like 23.

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21/6/06 05:06 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
Belle grew up and dated Sean Douglas, and they were totally in love. Then Sean disappeared because this chick Jan kidnapped him and kept him in a cage for months and months, because she was obsessed with him. Belle eventually married Phillip (Kate's son with Victor, and I think he should probably only be about 7 or 8 by now), who went off to do his duty for god and country in Iraq, and wound up losing a leg somehow after getting abducted by insurgents (who were really Dimera henchmen? Including a man they brought in to play Sammi-in-drag while Allison Sweeney was on maternity leave). While Phillip was off in the war, Belle was having a little affair with Sean, but then she couldn't bring herself to leave Phillip when he came back crippled.

Sammi's kid still isn't grown-up. He's...fourteen, fifteen now? And probably completely insane from Sammi and Lucas having years of "we hate each other! We're getting married! We hate each other again!" bullshit.

And *yes*, Isabella. I loved her so much, and I'm afraid she's the one character whose death I'm sure is forever. Didn't she have to die so she could help John save Marlena from being possessed by Satan or something? They *called* it cancer, but hey. Plot device. I also miss Shane and Kimberly and Eve. They should all definitely come back, and then I'd probably watch again full time instead of just reading this stuff on the internet. *g*

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20/6/06 23:36 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
Oh dear, that was Max Brady? Hm. If you want to be even more creeped out by them, my understanding is that Chelsea has to be a ZOMBIE. She totally died and got buried in the bayou as a baby, and I refuse to swallow the retconning on that.

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20/6/06 23:37 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pearl-o.livejournal.com
*giggles* EVERYONE dies and comes back; that doesn't bug me. But the incest? That's just weird!

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20/6/06 23:43 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
But she was STILLBORN. you don't get to come back from that! You were never THERE in the first place! though, yes, the incest is just weird. Granted, though, not only was he adopted, but her entire zombie childhood, until about a year ago, I think, was spent...elsewhere. I think she's sort of just getting to know her real family.

Of course, at the same time, I'm flipping out because Steve is finally back. My sister tried to convince me for *ages* that I was simply wrong about him still being alive. Sixteen years later, I have finally been proven right. And it is so, SO sad that I care about that. *g*

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20/6/06 23:46 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pearl-o.livejournal.com
*cracking up* You are a WINNER, Molly! Embrace it!

Also, your icon makes me way way too happy. Hee.

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20/6/06 23:49 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
I win at being a total loser, maybe. *g*

S2 Irina, however -- she wins at LIFE. As do you, with JG being so adorable!

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20/6/06 23:52 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pearl-o.livejournal.com
I just watched Mystery Men for the first time since I saw s2 Alias, and I was SHOCKED by the sight of Lena Olin being ... not smoking hot. It kind of freaked me out.

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21/6/06 00:02 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
WORD. She is so the epitome of hotness as Irina, and...yeah, Mystery Men. It's bizarre.

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21/6/06 05:15 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mollita.livejournal.com
Psssssst! Erm. Sorry about the Days nostalgia-thon going on in your LJ? *g*


and *MWAH*

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21/6/06 20:02 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pearl-o.livejournal.com
*giggles* Dude, I love it! I had no idea the throwaway at the end of the entry would start such a interesting conversation.

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24/6/06 04:28 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dirty-diana.livejournal.com
Once in The Bold and Beautiful a brother and a sister decided to hook up when it turned out they didn't have the same father after all. Never mind the part of show history where the brother had thought he *was* her father for a while.

It was gross.