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schmericaI have two topics for discussion today, people.
FIRST. Okay, so what is your guys's opinion on Diefenbaker's diet in Chicago? Primarily kibble, you think? I'm not sure Fraser in either the apartment or consulate has the resources for a raw food diet. We also see Dief eating a lot of people food (which, even leaving the donuts and pizza aside for a moment, Fraser, why are you giving your wolf spaghetti? Honestly). He seems pretty healthy no matter what, though. Presumably there's a stricter regiment when Diefenbaker is in working mode as a sled dog, as well.
SECOND. Fraser is basically respectful of authority -- but the law trumps authority -- and justice trumps the law. This last part is SO INTERESTING to me, you guys, because throughout the series we get, like, dozens of examples of Fraser telling other people that the only way to get to justice is through the law -- but when it comes down to it, the places where they don't meet up is still a major struggle for Fraser. Like, I don't think he's a hypocrite at all, but there are definitely times when in order to do the right thing, he is circumventing the law.
Examples off the top of my head:
+ Refusing to take the baby to the authorities in Mountie, Cop and Baby
+ Not turning in Kowalski in Asylum or Vecchio in Dead Man Running
+ Sitting in the Riv while Vecchio is in the gym with Zuko in the Deal
+ I haven't seen the episode in a while, so I don't remember exact details, but he's definitely torn in some way when it comes to Mask
There are more, I'm sure. And that's not even counting the times when he is tempted to the edge and you see how he's restraining the "wild sort of justice" within himself, just like he tells RayK in Eclipse. With Gerrard, with the gun in the pilot and the boot in the chest and throwing knives in Bird in the Hand; with Muldoon in Call of the Wild.
And of course, one of the questions that comes up is the same question that comes up with pretty much any question of Fraser characterization, which is: how does Victoria fit into all of this? Picking the law above love, and love above the law, and it goes wrong every time. How does justice fit in there at all?
Oh, FRASER. You have such deeply held beliefs. That is reason number 874 why I love you. <3
FIRST. Okay, so what is your guys's opinion on Diefenbaker's diet in Chicago? Primarily kibble, you think? I'm not sure Fraser in either the apartment or consulate has the resources for a raw food diet. We also see Dief eating a lot of people food (which, even leaving the donuts and pizza aside for a moment, Fraser, why are you giving your wolf spaghetti? Honestly). He seems pretty healthy no matter what, though. Presumably there's a stricter regiment when Diefenbaker is in working mode as a sled dog, as well.
SECOND. Fraser is basically respectful of authority -- but the law trumps authority -- and justice trumps the law. This last part is SO INTERESTING to me, you guys, because throughout the series we get, like, dozens of examples of Fraser telling other people that the only way to get to justice is through the law -- but when it comes down to it, the places where they don't meet up is still a major struggle for Fraser. Like, I don't think he's a hypocrite at all, but there are definitely times when in order to do the right thing, he is circumventing the law.
Examples off the top of my head:
+ Refusing to take the baby to the authorities in Mountie, Cop and Baby
+ Not turning in Kowalski in Asylum or Vecchio in Dead Man Running
+ Sitting in the Riv while Vecchio is in the gym with Zuko in the Deal
+ I haven't seen the episode in a while, so I don't remember exact details, but he's definitely torn in some way when it comes to Mask
There are more, I'm sure. And that's not even counting the times when he is tempted to the edge and you see how he's restraining the "wild sort of justice" within himself, just like he tells RayK in Eclipse. With Gerrard, with the gun in the pilot and the boot in the chest and throwing knives in Bird in the Hand; with Muldoon in Call of the Wild.
And of course, one of the questions that comes up is the same question that comes up with pretty much any question of Fraser characterization, which is: how does Victoria fit into all of this? Picking the law above love, and love above the law, and it goes wrong every time. How does justice fit in there at all?
Oh, FRASER. You have such deeply held beliefs. That is reason number 874 why I love you. <3
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30/4/07 22:18 (UTC)Also? I was SO confused when I read 'Gerrard'. "That's not how you spell it...
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30/4/07 22:21 (UTC)(I wonder what Fraser would have against bandom, anyway. Poor emo boys, getting on his bad side!)
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30/4/07 22:23 (UTC)(and he totally doesn't understand the 'saves lives' thing. He's never seen those boys in eyeliner jump off of a building or pick up their partner by the scruff of the neck to get them out of the way of a moving vehicle. He does however, admire Mr. Bryar's dedication to his art while on fire)
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30/4/07 22:27 (UTC)I don't think Fraser expects most people to achieve those heights of doing stuff! Just him. And his friends.
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30/4/07 22:31 (UTC)This is true, but I can't really think of any reason he WOULDN'T like Gerard. Because a dorky, gay boy like him? What's NOT to love? (he's so pretty!) Also, Gerard would LOVE Dief. (See discussion re:Wolf t-shirts)
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30/4/07 22:34 (UTC)I think Fraser is very respectful of artists in general. RayK, on the other hand, is much more dismissive.
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30/4/07 22:38 (UTC)two weeks ago. Pretty much? I think I love them more than FOB even if the fic is kind of terrible. So I'm trying to write some.Yeah, I don't think Ray would get the weemo thing AT ALL. (It's a bunch of whiny midgets!)
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30/4/07 22:42 (UTC)I am very hard to pimp into fandoms, is the thing, because whether or not I fall is completely and utterly random and unpredictable. I looooose.
Hee,
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30/4/07 22:50 (UTC)I completely understand. Fannish loves are just very personal <3
I knoooooow. I think I may have sparked it saying "YOU KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE CROSSED OVER?" and then she ran with it over to you. (The problem is, we have a lot of conversations that start "You know what I want to read?")
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30/4/07 22:52 (UTC)You are NOT ALONE in this! *daydreams about how I now want kidfic dealing with Fraser's justice-over-law thinger*
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30/4/07 22:56 (UTC)Ooooh. Tell me more!
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30/4/07 23:00 (UTC)(no subject)
30/4/07 23:03 (UTC)Or, oh man, if when she (I <3 them with a little girl, no lie) is a teenager and some guy tries to go too far....I'd move to fucking Tierra Del Fuego if I were him.
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30/4/07 23:08 (UTC)Dief would totally eat them.
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30/4/07 23:21 (UTC)*sniffle*
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30/4/07 23:22 (UTC)