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schmericaThing One: "Threesomes are a lot like Communism -- they're a great idea on paper but in reality they rarely work well."
Thing Two: I commented on![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
katallison's interesting last post here, with some of the other stuff I've been thinking about F/K/V.
A: (Also, one of the things I find most interesting about the Ray/Fraser/Ray stuff is that three people makes, really, this huge exponentially increasing number of possible emotional relationships among them. I find the sort of equal triad stuff that people are writing charming, but I can also totally see and love the idea of a more tense sort of vee shape, with Fraser at the apex, connecting both Rays. Whereas some of the other stories might, say, have two in a relationship and one just joining in, or maybe a vee with RayK at the apex, or other things that don't really hit my spots for the pairing.)
and then later B: Oh, YES. Really, it is just that hotel room scene in CotW -- which is highly satisfying emotional crack on its own -- taken to the extreme version, right? All of the angst and jealousy and love is already there; it's sort of just making it super-textual.
And really -- even keeping in mind Kat's making the angst look so very very pretty -- I think the scene in CotW is the really the center of the fascination for me. When I say emotional crack, I MEAN it; that scene is all about these emotional ramifications and friendship and desire and the difficulties of three in the space for two. Which continues all the way through the episode, in some ways, (though in others Ray Vecchio is quickly pushed out of the way), but I think is purest in that scene.
Anyway. Look how my Mountie-And-His-Boyfriends memory category is growing!
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katallison's interesting last post here, with some of the other stuff I've been thinking about F/K/V. A: (Also, one of the things I find most interesting about the Ray/Fraser/Ray stuff is that three people makes, really, this huge exponentially increasing number of possible emotional relationships among them. I find the sort of equal triad stuff that people are writing charming, but I can also totally see and love the idea of a more tense sort of vee shape, with Fraser at the apex, connecting both Rays. Whereas some of the other stories might, say, have two in a relationship and one just joining in, or maybe a vee with RayK at the apex, or other things that don't really hit my spots for the pairing.)
and then later B: Oh, YES. Really, it is just that hotel room scene in CotW -- which is highly satisfying emotional crack on its own -- taken to the extreme version, right? All of the angst and jealousy and love is already there; it's sort of just making it super-textual.
And really -- even keeping in mind Kat's making the angst look so very very pretty -- I think the scene in CotW is the really the center of the fascination for me. When I say emotional crack, I MEAN it; that scene is all about these emotional ramifications and friendship and desire and the difficulties of three in the space for two. Which continues all the way through the episode, in some ways, (though in others Ray Vecchio is quickly pushed out of the way), but I think is purest in that scene.
Anyway. Look how my Mountie-And-His-Boyfriends memory category is growing!
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17/4/06 15:54 (UTC)I don't think a vee shape necessarily = not all happy woot -- there are lots of people in relationships like that where it works perfectly well -- but it's certainly really complicated and different for these characters. Which, I like complications myself! But, yes.