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[schmerica]

Hey, RPS people -- and I mean that all around, not just bandslash but also popslash and Canada RPF and lotrips whoever else reads this -- I have a question for you, which is this: we write about these guys and girls for ourselves, in this fannish context, and it's not the same as reality, and we *know* that and we like it that way. (Didn't someone have a really good entry about filters and audience connected to slash goggles, which touched on something like this?) When we're going "they're so doing it" and "TINHAT", it's about our boys more than the real people who actually exist and think and talk and walk on their own.

But what I want to know is: what are the things that you genuinely, outside of all fannish viewing, think are true in objective reality? The people who you really do think are not heterosexual, or the people whom you believe really are having/did have some sort of romantic or sexual relationship beyond what is reported.

(I can say, "CKR might be queer, but I wouldn't be shocked if he did just like girls." But NOBODY was surprised at all when Lance Bass came out, you know?)

Comments

[ubixtiz.livejournal.com]

(Didn't someone have a really good entry about filters and audience connected to slash goggles, which touched on something like this?)

Are you thinking of cereta's post here (http://cereta.livejournal.com/127178.html)?

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

I think I must have been! Thanks!

[ficbyzee.livejournal.com]

Objectively speaking, I think:

--Bert and Gerard dated
--Bert and Quinn are in love
--Travis and Bill have at least made out, and probably fucked
--Pete is in love with Patrick
--Pete and Mikey had an affair

[azephirin.livejournal.com]

The only RPF I've read where I actually know something about the people is U2 slash. I've read popslash and the occasional piece of lotrips, but simply as stories by writers I like, if that makes any sense. Anyway, to answer for my dreadfully unhip RPF fandom, I genuinely think that there is and always has been something between Bono and Edge that's more than just friendship. I can't say what it is, or whether it's a sexual relationship, but I believe it's there. I also think that both those guys love their wives very much. Which makes slash difficult, but really interesting when it's done well.

*uses icon with keywords "bono edge big gay love"*

[rhythmsextion]

Ohhhh, U2 slash. Bandom before bandom was cool. <333

[leld.livejournal.com]

It would not take much to convince me that Gabe has locked people in his basement.

[annaalamode.livejournal.com]

-I think Gerard is gay like Lance

-I think that Pete is in love with Patrick but that Patrick is straight.

-Every time Frank makes out with Gerard, I just become more convinced of Frank's straightness. I also think that Jamia is the only person he has ever had sex with.

-I think Brendon is almost as gay as Gerard and had a crush on Ryan

-I think Ryan, and everyone else in Panic!, is straight.

-I think that Travis is just affectionate and William is slightly but not very queer.

[raveninthewind.livejournal.com]

1. Gerard was boyfriends with/dated Bert.
2. Pete Wentz is half-gay.
3. Brendon Urie is probably gay.
4. William Beckett is bi.
5. So is Mikey Way.
6. Gabe is at least bi.
7. Patrick is straight but not narrow.

I have thoughts about the others, but nothing so definite.

[keerawa.livejournal.com]

I try really hard not to think about it at all. Real People creep me out. Especially when others dress them up and play sexual games with them.

Fictional characters, they rev my engine.

[chikan4.livejournal.com]

Just chiming in because you said ANY RPS--George Eads and Eric Szmanda (CSI)lived together (probably still do, but I've lost track). Anyway, they had more chemistry onscreen together than, uh, anyone else. On the show. Ever. So cute.

Anyway, I like slash, but the fact that the two of them in real life were getting it on? Made the Nick/Greg slash fics even hotter. For me. YMMV.

[prettykitty-aya.livejournal.com]

**it's pretty much been verified that gerard and bert dated (even if all the pictorial evidence wasn't enough :P ). i also think that gerard is kind of in love with the idea of love? but i hope it works out with his wife...

**kind of on the opposite side of that, it's pretty obvious that pete and mikey had a serious thing during the summer of like (4 pictures, four. that's all i've ever seen of those two. and in each one you can just tell.)

**i have it on fairly good authority that brendon likes fucking girls (but i would not be surprised if he like dick, too. one can hope.)

**i believe that ryan ross is the straightest straight boy to ever straight. srsly.

**if bill and travie mccoy haven't made out then, well, there's seriously something wrong with the two of them.

**i think that pete is actually very, very correct in his use of 'gay above the waist' and that he is, in fact, in love with patrick. but he doesn't like dick and patrick is straight. bu still, BFF, man, BFF.

**oh, frank. once again, fairly good authority that frank has sucked cock, at least on a dare. while jamia watched. (have i mentioned yet, how jamia is the best bandom girlfriend EVER? because she is.)

...anyway, that's my input, for what it's worth :P i apologize for any vulgarities. and in conclusion: SPANKWICH. god.

[dirty-diana.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I don't believe that any of them are not straight/in love with their wives outside of my fannish reality. But I fangirl the Stargate boys and they are very manly and given to making many children.

I do totally believe that Richard Dean Anderson at some point made a pass at every actress on those sets. But he was probably just joking like, half the time.

[twilight-la-fae.livejournal.com]

*I believe that Pete may be a little in love with Patrick, but more than that? they are soul mates in the sense that they are the very best of friends. The kind that just click, and that they could, perhaps, stop talking for a year, but still be perfectly comfortable with each other and talk just like they used to. The kind that grow old together, and have lightsaber fights with their canes and fight over who pays when they go to lunch. I think that Patrick is the very first person to look at Pete and actually see Pete, and Pete loves him so much, just for that. *smiles* I've got a Patrick of my very own, so I think I understand.

*As stated by everyone else, I think the Bert/Gerard thing did happen. I also think that Gerard could give a flying fuck about the sexuality of the person he loves, as long as he loves them. (I also think the Pete/Mikey thing happened, and that Alicia thinks its hilarious)

*I do think, out of the many bandom pairings, Tyson/Nick is the most viable. Nick left college because he missed Tyson. So, at the very least? Nick is in love with Tyson.

*Jamia and Frank, I think, are bandom's best relationship. They're just totally crazy for each other, and it shows. I think that even if he and Gerard had/have a thing, it would have had to have a complete Jamia-Approved stamp on it. It is so obvious that he thinks she is the most precious thing in the world. So, if you've ever read that one bexless fic, about Frank and Jamia bringing Gerard to bed? I think it'd be like that.

*Brendon Urie, bless his disney-loving heart, is at the very least, very, very bisexual, if not totally gay.

*Ryan Ross might be straight, but he is totally gay for Pete.

*It broke Tom Conrad's heart when he was kicked out of TAI.

*I think that Gabe? Is probably one of the bigger sweethearts of the group, and would be just a generally really nice person.

Okay! If I think of any more, I will come back. Thanks for posting this- I was just thinking about what I thought was and was not real .